Sometimes late at night I like to hang out with my friend ChatGPT and have long talks about the Bible and Theology. Here is a transcript of one of those talks.
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Is there a certain term in Biblical studies for two stories in the Bible that seem analogous to one another except for small differences?
Yes, there is a term for this phenomenon in Biblical studies. It’s called “parallelism” or “parallel passages.” Parallelism refers to the phenomenon of two or more texts in the Bible that are similar to one another in content, structure, or language, but also have some differences.
There are different types of parallelism, including:
- Synoptic parallelism: This refers to the parallelism between the synoptic Gospels (Matthew, Mark, and Luke), which often present similar stories and teachings about Jesus, but with some differences in details and emphasis.
- Narrative parallelism: This refers to the parallelism between different stories or narratives in the Bible, such as the stories of Abraham and Isaac, Jacob and Esau, or David and Saul.
- Literary parallelism: This refers to the parallelism between different literary forms or genres in the Bible, such as psalms, proverbs, or wisdom literature.
Overall, the phenomenon of parallelism in the Bible is an important area of study for scholars of Biblical studies, as it can shed light on the origins, transmission, and interpretation of the biblical text.
Do any scholars recognize the story of Jesus walking on water as having parallelism to other stories?
Yes, some scholars have identified parallels between the story of Jesus walking on water and other stories in the Bible and in other ancient literature.
One possible parallel is the story of Moses and the parting of the Red Sea in Exodus 14:21-31. In both stories, the main character (Moses or Jesus) demonstrates control over the natural elements (water or sea) and leads their followers to safety. Additionally, in both stories, there is a miraculous crossing of a body of water, with supernatural elements at play.
Another possible parallel is the story of Elijah and the parting of the Jordan River in 2 Kings 2:8-14. In this story, Elijah parts the Jordan River with his cloak, and then crosses over with his disciple Elisha. This story also involves the crossing of a body of water, and the demonstration of divine power.
It’s worth noting, however, that the idea of parallelism between stories in the Bible is a matter of interpretation, and different scholars may identify different parallels or none at all. Additionally, some scholars may argue that the story of Jesus walking on water is a unique and original narrative, rather than one that is directly influenced by other stories in the Bible or in other literature.
Has any scholar that you know of discussed possible parallelism between the story of Jesus walking on water and the story of Jesus asleep in the boat?
Yes, some scholars have noted similarities between the story of Jesus walking on water and the story of Jesus asleep in the boat. In both stories, Jesus is in a boat with his disciples on the Sea of Galilee, and there is a sudden storm that threatens to capsize the boat. In both stories, the disciples are afraid and wake Jesus up, and he demonstrates his power over nature in some way (by calming the storm in one story, and by walking on water in the other).
Some scholars have suggested that these two stories may be different versions of the same event, or that they may have influenced each other in the process of oral or written transmission. For example, some scholars have argued that the story of Jesus walking on water may have originated as a miracle story about Jesus calming the storm, and that the walking on water motif was added later as a way of amplifying the miraculous nature of the event.
However, not all scholars agree with this interpretation, and there are other possible explanations for the similarities between the two stories. Some scholars may argue, for instance, that the two stories are simply different versions of different events, or that they share common themes and motifs that were common in ancient literature about sea voyages and storms. Ultimately, the question of parallelism between these two stories is a matter of interpretation, and different scholars may reach different conclusions.
where is the story of Jesus walking on water
The story of Jesus walking on water can be found in the New Testament of the Christian Bible, in the Gospels of Matthew, Mark, and John.
In Matthew 14:22-33, the story is told as follows:
“Immediately Jesus made the disciples get into the boat and go on ahead of him to the other side, while he dismissed the crowd. After he had dismissed them, he went up on a mountainside by himself to pray. Later that night, he was there alone, and the boat was already a considerable distance from land, buffeted by the waves because the wind was against it.
Shortly before dawn Jesus went out to them, walking on the lake. When the disciples saw him walking on the lake, they were terrified. ‘It’s a ghost,’ they said, and cried out in fear.
But Jesus immediately said to them: ‘Take courage! It is I. Don’t be afraid.’
‘Lord, if it’s you,’ Peter replied, ‘tell me to come to you on the water.’
‘Come,’ he said.
Then Peter got down out of the boat, walked on the water and came toward Jesus. But when he saw the wind, he was afraid and, beginning to sink, cried out, ‘Lord, save me!’
Immediately Jesus reached out his hand and caught him. ‘You of little faith,’ he said, ‘why did you doubt?’
And when they climbed into the boat, the wind died down. Then those who were in the boat worshiped him, saying, ‘Truly you are the Son of God.'”
The story can also be found in Mark 6:45-52 and John 6:16-21, although with some differences in details and emphasis.
what are the differences in detail?
While the basic narrative of Jesus walking on water is similar in all three Gospels, there are some differences in the details and emphasis of the story:
- In Matthew’s version of the story, Peter asks Jesus to command him to come to Jesus on the water, and he briefly walks on water before sinking. This detail is not included in Mark or John’s version of the story.
- In Mark’s version of the story, the disciples are said to be “straining at the oars” before Jesus walks on water, whereas in Matthew and John’s version, there is no mention of the disciples struggling with the boat.
- In John’s version of the story, the disciples see Jesus walking on water from a distance, and are immediately afraid. Jesus then says to them, “It is I; don’t be afraid.” This differs from the other two versions, in which Jesus first says, “Take courage! It is I. Don’t be afraid,” before Peter walks on water.
- In Matthew’s and Mark’s version of the story, the wind dies down when Jesus and Peter get into the boat, whereas in John’s version, the boat immediately reaches the shore after Jesus gets into the boat.
These are just a few examples of the differences between the three versions of the story. Each Gospel writer has their own perspective and theological emphasis, which can result in variations in the details of the same event.
does Peter walk on water in all three stories
No, Peter’s attempt to walk on water is only mentioned in Matthew’s version of the story (Matthew 14:28-31). In Mark’s and John’s versions, there is no mention of Peter walking on water.
In Mark 6:45-52, the story focuses on Jesus walking on water and calming the storm, but there is no mention of Peter attempting to walk on water. In John 6:16-21, the story is similar, with Jesus walking on water and the disciples being afraid, but there is no mention of Peter attempting to walk on water.
So, while the basic narrative of Jesus walking on water is similar in all three Gospels, there are differences in the details, including whether or not Peter is depicted as attempting to walk on water.
so where in the gospels is the story of Jesus asleep in the boat?
The story of Jesus asleep in the boat can be found in all three of the Synoptic Gospels (Matthew, Mark, and Luke). Here is an example of the story as it appears in Mark 4:35-41:
“That day when evening came, he said to his disciples, ‘Let us go over to the other side.’ Leaving the crowd behind, they took him along, just as he was, in the boat. There were also other boats with him. A furious squall came up, and the waves broke over the boat, so that it was nearly swamped. Jesus was in the stern, sleeping on a cushion. The disciples woke him and said to him, ‘Teacher, don’t you care if we drown?’
He got up, rebuked the wind and said to the waves, ‘Quiet! Be still!’ Then the wind died down and it was completely calm.
He said to his disciples, ‘Why are you so afraid? Do you still have no faith?’
They were terrified and asked each other, ‘Who is this? Even the wind and the waves obey him!'”
While there are no direct references to Jesus walking on water in this story, some scholars have noted possible parallels between this story and the story of Jesus walking on water, such as the emphasis on the disciples’ fear and Jesus’ power over the elements.
what are all the stories in Mark that involve boats?
Here are all the stories in the Gospel of Mark that involve boats:
- Jesus calls his first disciples, who were fishermen, while they were in a boat (Mark 1:16-20).
- Jesus teaches the crowds from a boat, while they stand on the shore (Mark 4:1-2).
- Jesus calms the storm while he and his disciples are in a boat (Mark 4:35-41).
- Jesus heals the daughter of Jairus, a synagogue leader, who had come to him seeking help, while he was on his way to Jairus’ house in a boat (Mark 5:21-43).
- Jesus feeds the crowd of 5,000 on the shore, with his disciples distributing the food from a boat (Mark 6:30-44).
- Jesus walks on water and calms the storm while his disciples are in a boat (Mark 6:45-52).
- Jesus heals the sick in Gennesaret, where people bring the sick to him on mats, even from boats (Mark 6:53-56).
In all of these stories, the boat serves as a setting for the action or a means of transportation for Jesus and his disciples. Additionally, several of these stories involve miraculous events or demonstrations of Jesus’ power over nature.
What are all the stories in matthew involving a boat?
Here are all the stories in the Gospel of Matthew that involve boats:
- Jesus calls his first disciples, who were fishermen, while they were in a boat (Matthew 4:18-22).
- Jesus calms the storm while he and his disciples are in a boat (Matthew 8:23-27).
- Jesus walks on water and Peter attempts to walk on water while the disciples are in a boat (Matthew 14:22-33).
- Jesus feeds the crowd of 5,000 on the shore, with his disciples distributing the food from a boat (Matthew 14:13-21).
- Jesus teaches the crowds from a boat, while they stand on the shore (Matthew 13:1-3).
- Jesus travels to the other side of the Sea of Galilee in a boat (Matthew 8:18-22).
- Jesus heals the demon-possessed men in Gadarenes, where they meet him as he is getting out of a boat (Matthew 8:28-34).
In all of these stories, the boat serves as a setting for the action or a means of transportation for Jesus and his disciples. Additionally, several of these stories involve miraculous events or demonstrations of Jesus’ power over nature.
in which gospels does Jesus multiply food, and how many times does he do it in each gospel?
Jesus’ multiplication of food is described in all four Gospels of the New Testament, with slight variations in the details. Here are the accounts of the multiplication of food in each Gospel:
- Matthew: Two times – Matthew 14:13-21 (5,000 fed) and Matthew 15:32-39 (4,000 fed).
- Mark: Two times – Mark 6:30-44 (5,000 fed) and Mark 8:1-10 (4,000 fed).
- Luke: One time – Luke 9:10-17 (5,000 fed).
- John: One time – John 6:1-14 (5,000 fed).
In each account, Jesus takes a small amount of food (usually bread and fish) and multiplies it to feed a large crowd of people. These miracles are often interpreted as a demonstration of Jesus’ divine power and his ability to provide for the needs of his followers.
where does jesus rebuke the disciples for not thinking about his miracle of feeding many people
In the Gospels of Matthew and Mark, there is an account of Jesus rebuking his disciples for their lack of faith and understanding after he had performed the miracle of feeding a large crowd of people.
In Matthew 16:5-12, after the Pharisees and Sadducees demand a sign from Jesus, he warns his disciples to “beware of the leaven of the Pharisees and Sadducees” (verse 6). The disciples mistakenly think Jesus is referring to bread, and they start to worry because they only have one loaf of bread with them in the boat. Jesus responds by rebuking them, saying, “O you of little faith, why are you discussing among yourselves the fact that you have no bread? Do you not yet perceive? Do you not remember the five loaves for the five thousand, and how many baskets you gathered?” (verses 8-9).
Similarly, in Mark 8:14-21, Jesus warns his disciples to “beware of the leaven of the Pharisees and the leaven of Herod” (verse 15). The disciples again think Jesus is talking about bread, and they start to argue among themselves because they have only one loaf of bread. Jesus rebukes them, saying, “Why are you discussing the fact that you have no bread? Do you not yet perceive or understand? Are your hearts hardened? Having eyes do you not see, and having ears do you not hear? And do you not remember? When I broke the five loaves for the five thousand, how many baskets full of broken pieces did you take up?” (verses 17-19).
In both of these instances, Jesus reminds his disciples of his previous miracle of feeding a large crowd of people and rebukes them for their lack of understanding and faith.
does jesus refer to the feeding of the 5000 and the 4000 in the same place?
In the Gospels, Jesus refers to the miraculous feeding of the 5,000 and the 4,000 in separate instances, and there is no record of him mentioning both miracles in the same place or at the same time.
In Matthew 16:9-10, Jesus reminds his disciples of the miraculous feeding of the 5,000 and asks them, “Do you not yet understand, or remember the five loaves of the five thousand, and how many baskets you took up? Or the seven loaves of the four thousand, and how many baskets you took up?” In this passage, Jesus mentions both miracles separately, as distinct events that his disciples should remember and understand.
Similarly, in Mark 8:17-21, Jesus rebukes his disciples for their lack of understanding and asks them, “Do you not yet understand or comprehend? Are your hearts hardened? Having eyes, do you not see, and having ears, do you not hear? And do you not remember when I broke the five loaves for the five thousand, how many baskets full of broken pieces did you take up?” Here, Jesus refers only to the feeding of the 5,000, without mentioning the feeding of the 4,000.
Therefore, while Jesus mentions both the feeding of the 5,000 and the 4,000 at different times in the Gospels, there is no record of him referring to both miracles in the same place.
Do any scholars suggest that the two stories (jesus feeding the 5000 and the 4000) might be the same story told in two different ways?
Yes, there have been scholars who have suggested that the two stories of Jesus feeding the 5,000 and the 4,000 may be different versions of the same event. This theory is based on the similarities between the two stories, as well as some of the differences.
For example, both stories involve Jesus feeding a large crowd with a small amount of bread and fish, and both stories end with the disciples collecting leftover fragments of food. However, there are also some differences between the stories, such as the number of people fed, the number of loaves and fish used, and the number of baskets of leftovers collected.
Some scholars have suggested that the differences between the two stories may be due to different sources or traditions that were combined by the gospel writers. Others have proposed that the stories represent different retellings of the same event by different witnesses or communities.
However, this theory remains a subject of debate among scholars, and there is no clear consensus on whether the two stories are indeed different versions of the same event.
what other very different gospel stories do people think might be the same event told in two different ways
There are several other gospel stories that scholars have suggested may be different versions of the same event, told in different ways. Some examples include:
- The Cleansing of the Temple: In the Synoptic Gospels (Matthew, Mark, and Luke), Jesus cleanses the temple during the final week of his life, while in the Gospel of John, he cleanses the temple at the beginning of his ministry. Some scholars suggest that these may be different versions of the same event, while others argue that they are separate events that have been conflated by the gospel writers.
- The Healing of the Blind Man: In the Gospel of Mark, Jesus heals a blind man named Bartimaeus as he is leaving Jericho, while in the Gospel of Luke, he heals a blind man as he enters Jericho. Some scholars suggest that these may be different versions of the same event, while others argue that they are separate events that have been conflated or confused by the gospel writers.
- The Resurrection Appearances: The four Gospels all describe different appearances of the risen Jesus to his disciples, but the details of these appearances are often quite different. Some scholars suggest that these may be different versions of the same event, while others argue that they are separate events that have been embellished or modified by the gospel writers.
Overall, the question of whether different gospel stories represent different versions of the same event or separate events altogether is a subject of ongoing debate among scholars, and there is no clear consensus on many of these issues.
do you know any more stories that would answer my question?
Yes, here are a few more examples of stories in the Gospels that some scholars have suggested may be different versions of the same event:
- The Transfiguration: In the Synoptic Gospels (Matthew, Mark, and Luke), Jesus takes Peter, James, and John up a high mountain and is transfigured before them, appearing in dazzling white clothing and speaking with Moses and Elijah. In the Gospel of John, there is no mention of the Transfiguration, but some scholars suggest that the story may be alluded to in John’s account of the resurrection appearances.
- The Anointing of Jesus: In the Synoptic Gospels, an unnamed woman anoints Jesus with expensive oil during a meal at Simon the leper’s house, while in the Gospel of John, a similar event occurs but the anointing takes place six days before the Passover. Some scholars suggest that these may be different versions of the same event, while others argue that they are separate events that have been conflated by the gospel writers.
- The Calling of the Disciples: In the Synoptic Gospels, Jesus calls his first disciples (Peter, Andrew, James, and John) while they are fishing by the Sea of Galilee, while in the Gospel of John, the disciples are already followers of Jesus and are called at different times and places. Some scholars suggest that these may be different versions of the same event, while others argue that they are separate events that have been conflated or reinterpreted by the gospel writers.
It’s important to note that these are all subject to ongoing scholarly debate, and there is no consensus on whether they represent different versions of the same event or separate events altogether.
are the names of the twelve disciples consistent thorughout the new testament?
No, the names of the twelve disciples are not entirely consistent throughout the New Testament. While the Synoptic Gospels (Matthew, Mark, and Luke) all list twelve disciples by name, there are some variations in the names given. For example, Matthew and Mark list Thaddaeus (also known as Judas, son of James) as one of the twelve disciples, while Luke lists him as “Judas the son of James” without identifying him as one of the twelve.
Additionally, the Gospel of John refers to twelve disciples, but does not list them by name. Instead, John focuses more on the relationship between Jesus and his disciples, rather than on their individual identities.
Overall, while there is general agreement among the Gospels about the number of disciples (twelve), there are some minor variations in the names given and how they are listed.
can you go into more detail please?
Sure, I can provide more detail about the variations in the names of the twelve disciples in the Gospels.
First, let’s start with the lists of the twelve disciples in the Synoptic Gospels. In Matthew 10:2-4 and Mark 3:16-19, the twelve disciples are listed as:
- Simon (Peter)
- James, son of Zebedee
- John, brother of James
- Andrew, brother of Peter
- Philip
- Bartholomew (also known as Nathanael)
- Thomas (also known as Didymus)
- Matthew (also known as Levi)
- James, son of Alphaeus
- Thaddaeus (also known as Judas, son of James)
- Simon the Zealot
- Judas Iscariot
In Luke 6:14-16, the twelve disciples are listed as:
- Simon (Peter)
- Andrew, brother of Peter
- James
- John
- Philip
- Bartholomew (also known as Nathanael)
- Matthew
- Thomas (also known as Didymus)
- James, son of Alphaeus
- Simon the Zealot
- Judas, son of James
- Judas Iscariot
As you can see, there are some minor differences in the names given between the lists in Matthew/Mark and Luke. For example, Matthew and Mark list “James, son of Alphaeus” and “Thaddaeus (Judas, son of James)” separately, while Luke combines them into “Judas, son of James.” Additionally, Matthew and Mark list “Simon the Zealot,” while Luke just lists “Simon.” These differences are relatively minor, however, and all three lists include twelve disciples.
In the Gospel of John, there is no list of the twelve disciples, and they are not referred to by name as a group. Instead, John focuses more on the individual relationships between Jesus and his disciples, and some of the disciples are mentioned by name in various contexts throughout the Gospel. For example, in John 1:35-42, Andrew and an unnamed disciple (presumably John) follow Jesus after John th